Nov. 1, 2022

How to Get Out of Your Own Way and Find Out: What If It Did Work? with Omar Medrano

How to Get Out of Your Own Way and Find Out: What If It Did Work? with Omar Medrano

Our guest is Omar Medrano from the podcast, “What If It Did Work?”

About this episode: 

What if you could override fear, silence the inner critic that prevents you from taking a leap of faith, and live your true purpose? Today’s guest believes that the journey of getting out of your own way begins with a surprisingly simple question: what if it DID work?

That’s according to Omar Madrano, a highly successful entrepreneur and business coach to those who are ready to crush the fear that is keeping them from achieving their highest potential. Omar is also the author of the book, What If It Did Work?, and the host of the podcast of the same name.

Today, we talk to Omar about some of the obsta

[00:00:00] Jeremy: Coming up today on the fit mess. 

[00:00:03] Omar: There's no microwave to success. Any success, Working out, losing weight, side hustle, entrepreneurship, you have to sacrifice the present and you have to sacrifice time and not a day, not two days. It's a process. It's longer than what you'll ever think .

[00:00:20] Zach: That's Omar Madrano. He's the author of the book, What If It Did Work? And the host of the podcast of the same 

[00:00:26] name. Today, we'll talk with him about the 

[00:00:28] obstacles that get in the way of our success and how to get over them. 

[00:00:32] But first, I'm Jeremy. And I'm Zach. We've spent years pushing ourselves to learn more about our own physical, emotional, and mental health, and picked up a few coaching certificates along the way. But really, we're two guys who got sick of our own shit and started making changes to be healthier, happier, and live more meaningful lives.

[00:00:47] And each week we talk to world class experts with advice to help you do the same.

[00:00:52] Jeremy: All right. A little bit of a disclaimer here. Omar is a really fun guy to talk to, but his approach might be a little more abrasive than many are used to 

[00:01:00] that, that listen to 

[00:01:01] our show. But I do think that his tough love approach can be the kick in the 

[00:01:04] ass

[00:01:04] that 

[00:01:04] people need to, to, take action. I know that I've had that in various occasions with you. I've had occasions of that with my therapist 

[00:01:11] where, , you're, sort of patted on the back and you're told it's gonna be 

[00:01:14] okay. Hang in there. It's, the times are tough, but every now and then you need someone to say, Dude, 

[00:01:19] just shut up and do it.

[00:01:21] Zach: Mm-hmm. 

[00:01:22] Jeremy: And that's very much kind of what his thing is. His whole idea of what if it did work? I just 

[00:01:27] love that it's such a battle cry for action because 

[00:01:29] so many times we get in our own way 

[00:01:31] with, Oh, I could do this, but what if people don't like it? What if this 

[00:01:34] fails? How much time am I gonna waste? But the alternative is what if it 

[00:01:38] actually works?

[00:01:39] What if that messy action you take right now 

[00:01:42] actually sets you up for the success in whatever it 

[00:01:44] is that 

[00:01:44] you're trying to at? 

[00:01:46] Zach: Yeah. , that's the one thing that, , I've had to change over the years is. Every time I wanted to do something new, it was always , what would happen if it didn't work? , , what are the consequences? And just, flipping that question like that makes such a huge difference because that defines your, vision of what it is that you're going after.

[00:02:06] Like truly, if it did work, how would your life be different and honestly, you can always reverse that stuff. Any of these things that we decide to do. , this is the key to trying anything new for me is , this thing that I want to do well if it doesn't work, is stop doing

[00:02:23] it, right?

[00:02:24] Reverse the

[00:02:25] decision. So why wouldn't you just chase that? What if it did 

[00:02:28] Jeremy: I can't tell you how many conversations I've had with a number of people where I'm complaining you mostly, cuz I don't talk to 

[00:02:35] anybody else,

[00:02:36] but I'm complaining about why something couldn't happen. Something's a problem, 

[00:02:40] something's in my way, whatever the thing is, And the person will say, But what if it did work 

[00:02:45] or something to, that effect to to try and reframe it.

[00:02:48] And my, my answer is constantly, Yeah, but, and then I can feel myself looking for that, that negative 

[00:02:54] thing that holds me. I'm so used to relying on 

[00:02:56] that to keep me from taking action. That if you can just like erase that part. I always, 

[00:03:01] I say this to my kids all the time, We can fight and we can argue, and then you're gonna do the thing anyways.

[00:03:05] So why don't we just skip all the fighting and arguing part and you just do the thing anyways. And I think the same thing applies here, like just. 

[00:03:11] If you can just let , those limiting beliefs and 

[00:03:12] that negative crap, go and just try 

[00:03:15] whatever the thing is. I love you. Say that all the time, and I love 

[00:03:18] it.

[00:03:19] It's not permanent. You can stop anytime you decide that it doesn't work 

[00:03:22] anymore. 

[00:03:23] Zach: Mm-hmm. 

[00:03:25] and 

[00:03:25] how's that working with the kids? 

[00:03:27] Jeremy: Oh, the, the fighting still is constant and it never goes anywhere. So I don't know that the math adds up on, on 

[00:03:32] the kid conversations, but hopefully adults can, can, 

[00:03:35] , 

[00:03:35] reason with it a little better. 

[00:03:36] Zach: Uh, 11 year old 

[00:03:37] brains are just, you know, they don't quite grasp the concept. I 

[00:03:40] Jeremy: You're right. Or seven year olds as it turns out. 

[00:03:43] Zach: Yes. Even, even worse there. . 

[00:03:46] One of my main issues is, is really procrastination around , 

[00:03:51] fear of failure. And a little bit of perfectionism and it's just so interesting how like changing this perspective , has like catapulted , my career, my health, my mental health. Like I was constantly.

[00:04:06] under the impression that if I was gonna do something, I had to do it 

[00:04:09] Jeremy: Mm. 

[00:04:09] Zach: and I couldn't fail at it, and it just had to be done. And in my entire brain would start circling around all the negative things of why it couldn't be perfect and why I, would fail at it. 

[00:04:24] Jeremy: Yeah. 

[00:04:24] Zach: And, it's good to keep those things in mind for like proper planning and, and things like that, but I was letting those things drive me as opposed to now I look at it and go, Okay, thank you anxiety brain for pointing out all the things that can go wrong and scaring the shit outta me. 

[00:04:40] Now I'm gonna focus on what if it did work and the

[00:04:43] rewards and the things that I would gain, and I'm gonna let that drive me. I. 

[00:04:46] Jeremy: For me, the thing that gets in the way is too often I I'm good with failure. I can fail all day long, no big deal. But if it's gonna 

[00:04:52] take a long time, I don't really wanna go down that road. So I start imagining how long is it gonna take me to do so? Okay. Say, I wanna write a book, for example, how long is am I gonna write this book that 

[00:05:04] three people are gonna buy?

[00:05:05] Right? Like, and it just like that, that impending failure and the amount of 

[00:05:09] wasted time between point A and point B. Every time I'm just like, oh, I'm just, I'm just not even gonna, because if it like, unless it's a spectacular success, then it's a huge waste of time. and I'm not, I'm not 

[00:05:21] serious about writing a book, but 

[00:05:22] just the idea of just, just enjoy the journey, 

[00:05:24] right?

[00:05:25] Like, decide to pursue things that bring you joy so that no matter what the result is, whether it's sells a million 

[00:05:30] copies or nobody ever, you know, reads a page, if you en enjoy the process, then it's worth 

[00:05:35] it. And for me, it's, it's just that time thing. It's just like I'm constantly hung up on how much of my time am I gonna waste on something that won't produce the results.

[00:05:42] I 

[00:05:43] Zach: See, but that's just fear of 

[00:05:45] Jeremy: Yeah. but You don't understand. Oh, wait, what if it did

[00:05:48] Zach: No. Yeah. Yeah, And you don't understand. 

[00:05:54] Jeremy: And as it turns out, something that doesn't take a 

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[00:06:44] All right, now that our nutrition is lined up, let's get to our guest. He is the man behind the book and the podcast. What if it did work? His name is Omar Madrano, and we started by 

[00:06:52] digging into his background and what prevented him from pursuing one of 

[00:06:55] his biggest dreams.

[00:06:57] I know that you wanted to be a journalist. You wanted to be the next Bob Costas, and as somebody who spent 20 years as a journalist, I I just want to tell you, you made the right choice, not following that toxic path 

[00:07:08] Omar: Oh. Dude, don't worry about it. I was actually, I, I was a journalist for a little over a year, a year and a half. I did wanna be Bob Costes. I even wanted to go to Syracuse University. Why? Just because, hey, that's the way to success. To spend like $30,000 a year at a private institution like Syracuse. It was never meant to be.

[00:07:29] They sent me a rejection letter faster than some of the women I ever asked out, but, but that's fine, you know? My, my roadblock, my, Hey, it's time to try a different path, was I was actually the producer of the Jimmy Swaggart show was like, bam, the guy demand Toit the ledge. And the guy that was Joel Oting before Joel Oting, and I'm like, I, I don't think my life is head.

[00:07:53] I'm not gonna be a Yankee announcer. I'm not gonna be a beat reporter. This, this just doesn't seem to be who I am. But that didn't, I, I didn't become an entrepreneur after that. I was like, Hey, why don't I try a different path, which was I was a financial advisor. 

[00:08:09] Jeremy: That's a little different. 

[00:08:11] Omar: Yeah. Yeah. it's, it's crazy because the path to journalism, I mean, people ask me why did I quit being a journalist? Well, if I wanted, To get, get a degree and the life of poverty, I would've just gone to seminary school, , my first job, wait for this $15,000 a year.

[00:08:31] No, this isn't 1950. This is 1996 salary and literally it's like 50 to 60 hour work weeks. I could have been flipping burgers. Well, I, I couldn't have said, would you like a grande or a tall, because there was no Starbucks. But I could have been doing any QSR fast food restaurant. But here I am. Oh, I'm my, on my way of becoming a journalist.

[00:08:55] No, I'm not. I was on my way to being like a complete moron. I had to have two full-time jobs. My other one was, I was a board op for, uh, like an, uh, like a AM radio station. I played Rush Limba. 

[00:09:10] Jeremy: So I seriously, our, our paths are similar because I started as a board op in radio and transitioned to being an editor and and being in news. And literally for the, last half of the 20 years I spent in radio, my doctor, every year I would go in for my physical and he would say, Did you quit that toxic fucking job yet? that thing 

[00:09:27] is killing you. 

[00:09:28] Omar: Dude, it was like Survivor Island, 

[00:09:31] Zach: now, where are you? Like now you've, you've, you've got a little bit of a different life, , professionally now you've got, you know, a book and a podcast. What if it did work, ? Tell us a little bit about, , the premise of, , the podcast and the work that you're doing now.

[00:09:43] Omar: The premise of my podcast is, , yes, it's a business. Podcast, It's personal development podcast. But the one thing that , all of my guests have in common is they focus on something. They focus on asking better questions. We all focus on the negativity.

[00:10:01] Why can't it not work? Or why? Why won't at work? Why don't you just ask yourself what if it

[00:10:08] did work? And then the second thing they all have in

[00:10:10] common. Everybody has to go through hell. Everybody has to go through obstacles.

[00:10:16] Steve Miller once said in big old jet airliner, the way to get through to heaven,

[00:10:21] you have to go through hell.

[00:10:23] So I mean, that's what it's about

[00:10:26] because so many people quit dreaming or they're on the

[00:10:29] sidelines and it's like, Come on man, if, if I can 

[00:10:32] find success, who can't?

[00:10:35] Jeremy: , it's very easy to get caught up in The, This could go wrong, this could blow up in my face. This isn't gonna work. I'm not good enough at Cetera. , other than sort of the thing that we all have rattling in our heads, what is it that, holds us back? what gets in our, in our way from pursuing that life of, of purpose, destiny, whatever it is that we're 

[00:10:51] chasing. 

[00:10:52] Omar: what holds us back is just all these little fears. We were, we were born for greatness. We were born to run as, as a little kid, as a little toddler or one year old, whatever that's called. We couldn't walk. We wanted to run. We'd stumble. Mom and dad, everybody pick, picked us back up. You better. But then afterwards, cuz nobody ever heard, Hey, you can't do it, John.

[00:11:18] You can't do it, Maria, why don't we get you a wheelchair? Just call it a day. You keep on falling. But after that, everything's like, Don't talk to strangers, don't do this. That person's here to mug you. That person's here to touch you. All these little voices were created in our heads to sort of protect us, but it was the worst case scenario.

[00:11:37] They wanted to protect us, but the only thing all, all this, all these little negative voices did was hold us back. It brought us fear, fear of rejection, fear of unknown, fear of looking bad. Just a lot of fear.

[00:11:52] Zach: Like fear of failure is like what you're talking about. But what about the opposite? The fear of success? 

[00:11:57] Omar: Oh yeah. The the fear of success, especially nowadays because we want a poo poo on people that are successful because that's complete scarcity mode. Oh my gosh. You know, Hollywood paints every successful person villain with a monocle and . I'm greedy. I'm rich, and you know a lot of, I don't wanna say woke people.

[00:12:20] Well, I'll say woke. People believe that. In order to become successful, you have to hurt other people. Heck, the book that I wrote, I, I dated a woman that was super woke that was like, Why do you wanna do all this? Why don't you just wanna drive for Uber? And it's like, well, you know why? Why state the obvious, but.

[00:12:42] The only thing success can do for you is it's an amplifier If you wanna help people out, the person a hundred thousand dollars in debt can't help out anybody. Now the multi-billionaire can stroke a huge check and help out millions.

[00:12:58] Jeremy: so what about the people that, and perhaps they're not listening to these podcasts? The, the people that are fine. Right.

[00:13:04] They don't, they're not chasing a purpose. They're not going after something bigger, but they really don't know what they want. They just kind of got into this life that they sort of fell into. and what about the people that don't know what they 

[00:13:16] want? . 

[00:13:17] Omar: People that don't know what they want, they quit dreaming. If they ever started dreaming, all they're worried about, we're taping this on a Thursday, so you're, they're like, Oh my God. Tomorrow baby, it's Friday. And then Sunday night comes and they put the little meme of a cat. Oh, I can't believe it.

[00:13:35] Tomorrow's a new work week. And then Monday rolls around and it's like, I'm watching office space. Oh my God, I'm having a bad case of the Mondays. No people. That aren't living in their crap and that same routine are not listening to our podcasts. They're too busy watching Stranger things. They're too busy watching Netflix.

[00:13:55] They're too busy binge watching. They're too busy stealing happy hours to ever be concerned about a podcast. A book. I'm not gonna read a book , unless it's R Stein or unless it's 50 Shades, or unless it's a dinosaur 

[00:14:11] book. I'm not gonna read any of That stuff. That stuff's for crazy, stupid people. Uh,

[00:14:17] Zach: I've always wondered 

[00:14:18] how many people are actually lying when you say 50 Shades of gray, and somebody's like, Oh, I read the book, but, but in reality, they really probably only watched the movie. What do you

[00:14:27] Omar: yeah, I, and I didn't read the book. I watch, I'm not gonna lie, I watched the movie because, hey, I remember a time in the eighties when mom left and, you know, HBO was on, or I couldn't get Cinemax and I had to watch the wavy stuff. Those, those are, those are the guys that watched that. They, they wanna see the Cinemax. 

[00:14:46] Jeremy: but that explains why so many people wait for someday to take action on these things, right? Tell me about why someday

[00:14:52] gets in the way 

[00:14:53] Omar: The reason why someday gets in the way is because so many people are so full of shit, man, that that's why New Year's resolutions. Everybody's waiting right now sitting on their ass. They're already 35 pounds overweight, but they're like, Hey, you know what? 2023 is my year. I'm, I'm only three or four months away.

[00:15:13] Let me power eat from now until then so I can gain more weight. So I can be a hip, I can post on social media.

[00:15:21] Hey, winning 2023, this is my year. They go to the parking lot with the rest

[00:15:27] of the people trying to find. The closest parking spot. They can't, so they, they burn more gas than driving around than when they actually do go to the gym.

[00:15:38] They work out twice, three times. Like, Oh damn, where's Bob Harper? Where's Jillian Michaels? I'm about losing this 30 pounds of three weeks. This is bullshit. I'm leaving 2024. That's my year.

[00:15:53] Zach: what about the people who, who actually are like a little bit more, , driven, have the discipline in their, , they kind of know what they want. They're not afraid to go after it, but they're, they have trouble finding the way there.

[00:16:08] Omar: only reason why people have a hard time finding the way there is because they've gotten beaten down. They've heard from their family, they've heard from their friends. Oh, success isn't for you, man. That's that's for other people. Oh, you can't find your soulmate. You're so unlucky and love. Oh, a side hustle.

[00:16:26] No, that's not, That's not you. Oh, you wanna read a personal development book? A business development book? You wanna go to a seminar? Oh, seminars aren't for you. 

[00:16:35] In fact, that doesn't 

[00:16:37] work. , my mom to this day, hasn't read my 

[00:16:40] book, hasn't heard a podcast, haven't seen a 

[00:16:42] video. She calls the guy to this day, Tony Roberts.

[00:16:47] It's Tony Robins 

[00:16:48] Jeremy: Oh my God. 

[00:16:49] Omar: And, and we can correct her because she's not gonna listen to this. We, we could have the cure for cancer. We could have to, how to 

[00:16:55] live to be 200, but my mom will never know because 

[00:16:58] she's not listening. , but that's fine. That's the 

[00:17:00] masses. , But to, answer your 

[00:17:02] your question, the, um, most people, even the most incompetent person, will truly find success one day.

[00:17:12] As long as he keeps on hustling, as long as he keeps on striving. Okay. Harlan Sanders, everybody loves to hear that story about the old man, but Harlan was literally failure after failure. He was never lazy. He was always going for something in his twenties, his thirties, his forties, his fifties. And it wasn't until that person will hit it.

[00:17:35] Now we won't, We don't, we don't have a secret recipe, so you and I won't be the sergeant or the major or the colonel, but people that do the. We'll eventually find success if they write down their goals, if they're transparent, if they find a big enough why. And if they do it for all the right reasons, not because they wanna hashtag win.

[00:17:59] Cause so many people, they really don't wanna lose weight. , They just wanna give the appearance by, Hey, look at me. , everybody's waiting for the newest cookbook. Everybody's waiting for the new, , CrossFit's so old now. It's like 15 years old. What, what's, what's the new exercise? Fat.

[00:18:15] What, What's the new pill that it can take that it look like frigging Brad 

[00:18:19] Pit . I just take 30 days worth of pills. I, I sit on my ass, I eat crispy cream and before you know it, we don't talk about

[00:18:27] fight club. That's what people are waiting for all three of. Work out all the

[00:18:32] time. Clearly, yes. It's a process.

[00:18:36] It's a mission. It's something That you have to do on a consistent basis, but you'll still hear people, Wow, you look great. You lost all that weight. Was it intermittent fasting? Did you fast for a week

[00:18:50] and just drink water? 

[00:18:52] . 

[00:18:52] You, you just worked out and you, you, you didn't eat at the golden arches. 

[00:18:58] No way. Oh, you're so full of shit.

[00:19:00] Jeremy: specifically from a business perspective, Cause I know that's a lot of what you focus on with your work for someone who is doing the work. And it's been a few years or a couple of decades and, and the match just hasn't sparked. Is there a point where you're just, it's just not gonna light and you had a good idea, it just didn't work out.

[00:19:24] Time to put on your big boy pants and go flip some burgers. Does that, does that exist? Does that, is that reality for anybody or is it really just grind it out and it'll, it'll pay 

[00:19:33] off. 

[00:19:34] Omar: Reality of it's never gonna work for. Being an entrepreneur, it's not for 

[00:19:40] everybody doing a podcast. It's not for everybody. Those are words. People

[00:19:45] cringe because they want to hear. Everybody can be an entrepreneur. Everybody can do a side hustle. Everybody can't. Not everybody wants to put in the work.

[00:19:57] Not everybody wants to sacrifice. Not everybody wants to sacrifice stuff for right now. For something better. But can somebody literally work their way to success? It? It depends. It depends on, on your goal. I always wanted to be the first basement for the New York Yankees. I'm lefthanded. It's my favorite team growing up, you know, God made me five, eight, slow, zero athletic ability.

[00:20:21] So clearly if I kept on, I, you know, somebody would've had to say, Hey Omar, have you ever.

[00:20:30] Anything else besides sports But, but no, I, I, I do believe we had the talents within this, that we hone it and we double down on it. We, we can find success. The thing is people want success and things. We all wanna sing. Very rare can we be like William Hong and become motivational speakers because we look like a bunch of fucking assholes.

[00:20:57] Sing singing. She bangs. But yet, you know, everybody sees that and go, Oh, okay, well let, let me go to an audition. Let me look like a fool. Congratulations. But no, it, you know, not everybody's made to do a Grammy. Not everybody's made to, you know, hit a baseball, but there's always, there's something within each and every one of us for success.

[00:21:19] Zach: For the person who's kind of like, They've got the skill, they've got the motivation. They're like slogging along, just trying to make something happen. you know, I know I've done, you know, multiple side hustles and multiple things. Some have worked, some haven't.

[00:21:33] You know, everyone hits that point though, where you're just like, What the fuck? Like, what am I doing?

[00:21:38] Omar: Oh, dude, I, I, I

[00:21:39] Zach: do you get through that?

[00:21:40] Omar: every day, man. I do that every day. I, I, I know you guys. Hit that moment that, what are we doing that will always creep in. It's always your like, , 

[00:21:50] what's that book called? Three Feet From Gold. 

[00:21:53] , Do Will always hit. It's Napoleon 

[00:21:54] Hill. Dow will always 

[00:21:56] hit .

[00:21:57] The reason why it's called it Three Feet from Gold is you're so close to hitting it and you turn around because you quit. You know, being a podcaster, all of us have. We've had people that you think will be on as a guest. They ghost you. People that have no right to ghost you, or they'll laugh at you. People have told me I'm not gonna be the next Tony Robinson.

[00:22:20] I'm not gonna be the next High Lopez. I'm not gonna be the next Grant Cardone. And congratulations. I know that , all I wanna do is be the best version of Omar Madrano. And yes, every day you'll, you'll have a a little reminder. When I owned a business, I always told my team members, You're always going to deal with one. That's going to try to ruin your day. Don't let it happen. 

[00:22:51] Jeremy: So you have a new book that, uh, alludes to, to some of these ideas. It's called The The vacation ceo, 

[00:22:56] Omar: oh yeah. The vacation ceo, , people always just wanna be an entrepreneur because, you know, ah, the light shines and it sounds like it's such an easier job, . People that say, Hey, I wanna be an entrepreneur. It's easy. But it, it, it doesn't work that way with people. Get, hit with reality. , they say they want more vacation. It's not the way to do it. They want more time, they want more money. People don't understand. You have to sacrifice.

[00:23:26] , It's a process. You have to be a leader. You can't be a boss. And what happens is they think they own a business and the business owns them. And it's like having a 40 year old son that never leaves home after graduating college. And it's just like a, a burden on the parents. So it, it's just a book on how to be a, an owner, how to be an entrepreneur, how to scale, how, how to live life, you know, instead of just going on social media and posting bullshit and saying, Hey, I'm hashtag winning.

[00:24:01] Jeremy: And so how do we do that? How do we pursue that winning. life for real, and not just the social media version? If, if I'm listening to this, uh, I'm inspired, there's something I wanna do, I don't wanna wait for someday, what can I do Right now, to start

[00:24:13] down that path? 

[00:24:15] Omar: Right now, the way to start on that path is, one, there's no microwave to success. Any success, Working out, losing weight, side hustle, entrepreneurship, you have to sacrifice the present and you have to sacrifice time and not a day, not two days. It's a process. It's longer than what you'll ever think you'll go through.

[00:24:37] Work on it on a consistent basis. Write down your goals. Have intentions. What is it that 

[00:24:43] you want? , and within what time. Have reasonable goals. Don't say, Hey, I wanna lose 60 pounds in 

[00:24:50] three weeks. It's not going to happen. And always check in. Always write down your goals. Always write down the.

[00:24:58] Always write down what you're giving up right now cuz God in the universe wants to know what are you gonna give 

[00:25:05] up today to have a way better tomorrow.

[00:25:09] Zach: Wow, it, There's so many good things coming, coming from you. Uh, where can people find you? Where can people get the books? Where can people get all the 

[00:25:17] things that you do and find you online?

[00:25:20] Omar: Well, the, the, the, good news is people, I'm not trying to be a profit P R O F I T. I don't look at people like they're checking accounts when it comes to personal business development. I'm more like St. Jude, the patron saint of Lost causes. So you can DM me, you can send me any message. I'm public on Facebook.

[00:25:44] Omar Madrona, you can join our group. What if it did work? I never pitch on. The book's called What If It Did Work? The podcast is what If it did work, and I will answer. I will help you out in any way 

[00:25:59] possible. Just do me a favor. Don't DM me about Forex. Don't DM me about cryptocurrency. Don't DM me saying you're a personal trainer.

[00:26:12] That's like a 21 year old and that I look like. And with, with the help of you, you're gonna make me look like I'm Mr. Universe cuz that ain't gonna happen.

[00:26:23] Zach: Can I DM you about, Tony Roberts?

[00:26:25] Omar: You, you can, you can de dent me about Tony Roberts. You can de, like I said, it is like, I don't mind people selling me. But at least do a good job. The thing with somebody trying to sell you cryptocurrencies flux is like, Oh, I'm a multimillionaire now. . I'm like, Brother Theresa, now I just wanna help you out Who?

[00:26:45] It's like, whoa, holy shit, man. Cause you know, I've been waiting for Warren Buffet, who's a bill. You know, at one time the wealthiest man in the world with Charlie Munger. How come they couldn't DM me this amazing. That, that they wanna help me, you know, But, but you, my friend, you know, with your 20 million, you're gonna help me with crypto and four x Oh, thank you.

[00:27:07] Bless your heart, 

[00:27:09] Jeremy: Omar, thanks for the talk and the laughs. Always a great time. Uh, we appreciate you being on 

[00:27:14] with us today. Thanks so much. 

[00:27:15] Omar: No problem, brother. Take care. 

[00:27:17] Jeremy: man. 

[00:27:17] Zach: Our thanks to Omar Madrano, author and host of what, If it 

[00:27:20] Did work. You can find links to him And his work in the show notes for this 

[00:27:26] Jeremy: You know, I think one of the key points that he hammered over and over again in that interview is that whatever success you're pursuing,

[00:27:31] it's gonna require sacrifice. It's 

[00:27:33] gonna require that

[00:27:34] You get uncomfortable right now to create the results in the long run that you're 

[00:27:39] trying to pursue. So that's gonna mean when you want that ice cream bar and you wanna watch TV at night, maybe that's gonna get in the way 

[00:27:46] of, of your weight loss goals if you want.

[00:27:48] Become an entrepreneur, , quitting your job and just sitting on the couch and playing video games, maybe not the best way to get there. So you've gotta delay instant gratification so that you can end up with the life that you're actually trying to create instead of hoping that it shows up by doing a bunch of 

[00:28:02] things that won't make it.

[00:28:04] Zach: Yeah, I've been reading a, lot more about this and it, it is just, we live in a society where like, we're pretty comfortable all the time now. like and I'm speaking, , from the United States. like I know that not everyone

[00:28:15] has it as well as I do, but , I'm relatively comfortable. And you know what, If I want to feel good, I can get little dopamine hits from Facebook and Instagram, 

[00:28:23] Jeremy: day 

[00:28:24] Zach: right?

[00:28:24] And like, there's all these, you know, feel good things out there for us, , that have really conditioned us to , think that, , everything has to feel okay and that sacrifice

[00:28:34] is uncomfortable. , it is really painful. , but if you really want whatever it is that you. That's where you. 

[00:28:41] gotta go.

[00:28:41] You can't, You can't do it an easy way. 

[00:28:43] Jeremy: And along the way, 

[00:28:44] you need to make sure you're listening to the 

[00:28:46] right

[00:28:46] voices in your head, because a

[00:28:47] lot of times we have limiting beliefs that

[00:28:49] were probably planted there 

[00:28:51] in childhood by somebody else,

[00:28:53] whether they were talking about you or 

[00:28:55] not, but they become beliefs that drive you to live 

[00:28:59] a certain way.

[00:29:00] And if you're constantly holding yourself back because of things that other 

[00:29:02] people believed or other people.

[00:29:04] You just sort of picked up along the way. 

[00:29:07] That can definitely get in the ways. You've gotta find ways to make sure that whatever it is that you believe about yourself, whatever story 

[00:29:12] you're telling yourself that it's true 

[00:29:14] Zach: I don't know, man. I really like the voices in my head. Like they, they bring, they bring out a, a, a conflict in my, in my own brain, but it's like, it's like the Brady Bunch times 97, 

[00:29:25] just all these different things and they fight and they, don't like each other, but some of 'em like each other.

[00:29:31] It's very interesting. It's a good, it's a good time in 

[00:29:33] my head, that's for

[00:29:34] Jeremy: I'm just picturing you with like a, like a ping pong paddle, swatting, different voices away, trying to get to the right.

[00:29:40] Zach: But with all those voices in my head, right. 

[00:29:42] I, I know some of them are not true. Some of them actually are true. , but some of them know what they're talking about and a lot of them tell me I'm, good at stuff even though I don't believe. Right. , there's a lot of things that it's taken me a long time to really figure out that I'm great at something. 

[00:30:00] , And sometimes there's things I don't even know I'm great at. So I think that was 

[00:30:03] the, you know, the other piece to it. , there are things that we are all good at. You just may not know about it yet.

[00:30:08] Jeremy: All right. Well this is all great advice, but don't take our word for it. You know, just check out Tony Roberts work, and he will definitely point you on the right path to making sure that you can accomplish your dreams 

[00:30:16] Zach: it'll 

[00:30:16] probably be a bootle copy. I'm, I'm gonna

[00:30:20] Jeremy: Don't buy it from the guy on the sidewalk in, in Manhattan, 

[00:30:22] because it's probably not the right thing. 

[00:30:24] Zach: yeah, definitely Tony Roberts. 

[00:30:26] Jeremy: right.

[00:30:26] Thanks to Omar for being on the show, and thank you for listening. Don't let the conversation end there though. Please join us in our Facebook group. There you can find fellow fitness listeners on a similar journey to

[00:30:35] yours that will help hold you accountable and help you reach the goals that you are chasing as well.

[00:30:39] You can find the link to do that on our website. It's the fit That's where we will be back in just a few days. With a brand new episode. Thanks for listening. 

[00:30:48] Zach: See everyone. 


cles that get in the way of our success and how to get over them. Tuning in, you’ll learn how to eliminate the worst-case-scenario thinking that plagues so many of us, prepare yourself for the inevitable sacrifices you’ll have to make along the way, and flip your thinking from “what if it all goes wrong?” to “what if it actually goes right?”

If you have a great idea but you haven’t launched a business yet because fear is holding you back, this is the episode for you! 

Topics discussed in this episode:

  • A quick disclaimer about Omar’s ‘tough love’ approach
  • The fears that hold us back from pursuing our dreams
  • How ‘someday’ is getting in your way
  • Why entrepreneurship isn’t for everyone
  • Putting in the work to find success
  • How to prepare yourself for the inevitable dark times
  • What it means to be a “vacation CEO”
  • The difference between being a boss and being a leader
  • Why there’s no microwave to success
  • Why setting achievable goals is key

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Not always a highly successful entrepreneur, Omar was often left stuck in his career – watching others dominate the industry and pass him by to reach success he’s dreamed of. It wasn’t until he started ASKING for what he wanted and stopped letting the fear of rejection get in his way, he started seeing the results he dreamed of.

Now, Omar wants to help you shake up your approach to launching your next business, keeping your happiness and life in mind, as well as your bottom line, which he enjoys doing through books like this, online coaching and speaking regularly.

And when he’s not teaching business owners how to find clarity, conviction and faith in themselves, you can find him playing the stock market, working out and indulging in the occasional smoothie while parenting his incredible daughters.